Topic de Diana Ross

Comme je vous l'ai dit, je fais des recherches sur les relations complexes de Michael avec Diana Ross...

Je sui tombée sur un truc de OUF! (cela me donne l'impression d'avoir pénétré le système secret de quelque chose )
N'étant pas une pro de l'informatique QUELQU'UN POURRAIT IL DECODER?
Ca n'a pas l'air d'être un site normal...

http://www.insolitology.com/topten/koostrenite/ri-832i.htm


Merci

Sur cette même fenêtre je suis tombée sur (voir post suivant....)

Après avoir tapé DIANA ROSS, j'ai évidemment tapé MICHAEL JACKSON et voilà ce que j'ai trouvé :C'est flippant mais je pense que l'on parle de scientologie (c'est hallucinant, j'i fait un post tout à l'heure en donnant la sciento comme exemple par rapport à la NOI)
Franchement, je me fais peur!!!! http://www.insolitology.com/topten/koostrenite/ri-222ri.htm


1 July 1995
revised 10 March 1997


RI-222Ri 'Michael Jackson, Help for him'


from Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-222Ri for Internet

(Revised to increase quality)


Includes a list of 'Notes on Art' by Ambassador for Mankind.



"Hey, you know - Auditing [by Ambassador for Mankind] can be fun!
It's [looking at and] admitting what I created!"

'Michael Jackson'



reference:
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-771i.htm




I am showing you the report of
the Telepathic Communication Assist
done for Michael Jackson at a time
when I perceived he needed my help.

This Telepathic Interview, done some time ago, on 5 December 1994,
proves further
that the (June 1995) allegations against Michael
are false and are solely borne out of
the very well known vicious and malicious intentions
of some of the citizens of Earth
against the very able, against the very alive.





Telepathic Communication Assist for Michael Jackson,
on 5 December 1994, 14:00 GMT
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.


At 14:00 GMT

[Note by Auditor (someone who listens carefully:]

Before I, Auditor, started the session,
I went into telepathic communication
with Michael Jackson.

This is what I perceived:
Michael is taking drugs to perform on stage.
He needs to come off drugs.
And he needs an
"Interiorization/Exteriorization Handling"
(he is frequently changing
from being exterior from his body,
to being interiorized into his body
and he has trouble with that).

LFBD's-F/Nind

I indicated to Michael Jackson
that the above is the case.


At 14:25 GMT, 25 minutes later:

[Auditor:] What are you withholding from [not telling] Koos?

[Michael:]
"Drugs, headaches,
unpleasant Exteriorizations [going out of the body]
on stage while performing, only recently.

"I am forced out of my body
by the dope [drugs] and the noise of the music.

"My head seems to be under heavy pressure,
like floating alone, and
I find myself moving higher
and higher up, and
I perceive my body performing, dancing,
strangely,
lonely,
and
I perceive my people
(audience,
musicians,
technicians)
all at once, like
in a padded... foggy mass. LF LFBD


"It's only for a few seconds [that that happens],
and it has repeated several times since,
since when??
It's hard to continue the show,
it is an awful strain to keep singing:
How do you keep singing
when your body is far below you? LF


"Then I want to
'cut the cords [lines, streams of energy
which anyone creates to steer and command his body
and to get sensation from the body]' -
but I am afraid. LF

"Sometimes I just wanted to let go
and float off like a balloon.

"But I get down to my body,
I always got down,
and
then I am perceiving my head like lead,
something pushing me down.


"And all the time I have my motions well grooved in,
you wouldn't notice anything.

"Then it's gone again after some minute.
And a headache remains.


"But most of the time it's just great,
free floating, light,
I am at ease with all those kids around me.

"I like people, and they like me."



[Auditor:] What have you done against Koos? LF LF

[Michael:]
"My wife [Lisa Marie Presley] tells me
it's an Overt [a non-survival act] to leave Scientology,
my Auditor told me
it's an Overt [a non-survival act] to leave my wife.

"I guess it is.
But, they are all so serious!" LFBD


[Auditor:] What are
they (Scientologists, your Auditor, your Case Supervisor)
so serious about?

[Michael:]
"That I took drugs
- hardly take any now, except this present dope.

"That I was promiscuous, F
that's show-biz [show business], I knew a lot of girls." F's



[Auditor:] What SHOULD they really be serious about?
What non-survival act SHOULD they find out? LFBD

[Note by Auditor:] Mental space clears up. LF


[Michael:]
"Some 20 years ago, LFBD
I helped a friend to drugs,
and he died,
I helped him for a good period of time
to have money to buy his stuff. LF

"He wasn't such a good performer,
he was a heavy druggy, poor kid, wouldn't come off."


[Auditor:] Did you kill him? LF

[Michael:]
"Not directly. I contributed to him dying."


[Auditor:] What did you do?

[Michael:]
"I financed his drugs for three years." LF


[Auditor:] When was that?

[Michael:]
"In 1980, F
1981, LF
1982." LF


[Auditor:] When did he die?

[Michael:]
"In 1982." LFBD


[Auditor:] Where did he die?

[Michael:]
"In Los Angeles.

"I seldomly saw him in these three years. LF

"I thought what I did was being responsible for him. LFBD
He shouldn't have died." LF



[Auditor:] What are you withholding from Koos? LF

[Michael:]
"Being different personalities." LF LFBD


[Auditor:] About which personality
should Koos not, nor anybody else, find out?

[Michael:]
"It is an evil being, a satanic being.
It is the other side of me. LF
It exists. It doesn't exist. LFBD


[Auditor:] When was it? F

[Michael:]
"When was what?"


[Auditor:] When did this being (this personality) exist?

[Michael:]
"Well, yes, it existed! LFBD
It was me!"


[Auditor:] When was it?

[Michael:]
"In the year 1474."


[Note by Auditor:] I get a mental picture from him:

A deserted town in Italy near the sea;
a wide square;
block-shaped buildings around.
Far from the center of the square,
a harbour town in midday sun-glare.
A crippled man with scars in his face,
sitting in the shade of a fountain
in the middle of the square. LFBD


[Note by Auditor:] Michael confronts, faces
this Beingness (his personality) of that time. LFBD LFBD


[Michael:]
"I hated children.
They were throwing stones at me. I threw stones at them.
I shouted at people. Cursed them.
Real crazy!
I made people scared. I laughed at them.


[Michael now, about what he did then:]
"I don't like that.
Sometimes I had impulses to be that ugly to people,
to my audience." LFBD



[Auditor:] How else ugly?

[Michael:]
"Shock them, scare them,
keep them running away from me in terror, and
laugh about them.

"When I was mad at
a crowd that
surrounded me and shouted insanely and tore at my clothes, and LFBD
trampled each other down and
behaved like animals,
then
I would have liked to be a bat or a vampire:
I would have lifted myself up out of their midst, and
I would have, with my fangs,
grabbed one after the other and
pulled them out of the crowd and up, and
I would have, with a laughter like a goat,
liked to drop one after the other into a nearby lake.

"That ugly!" LFBD


[Note by Auditor:] Relief of Michael. LFBD


[Michael laughs:]
"Hey, you know - Auditing [by Ambassador for Mankind] can be fun!
It's admitting what I created!
OK, I created such a creature as being myself.

"I have created a lot of images of myself, LF
some I am proud to show, LF
others I rather hide. LF

"Might be better [to hide them].
But it's also good to talk about it."


[Note by Auditor:] I give Michael a good acknowledgment:

[Auditor to Michael:] Right! That's Auditing [by Ambassador for Mankind]!


(Very Good Indicators of Michael Jackson)

LFBD's-F/Nind

'Michael Jackson'


Total session time: 2 hrs 31 min

Total E-meter TA-motion: 13.3 divisions

Highly specialized Telepathic Check Auditing
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 1,762 US $ total cost.



(The abbreviations F(Fall), LF(Long Fall), LFBD(Long Fall Blow
Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe reactions on the E-meter,
indicating mental charge (F, LF, LFBD), and release of charge
completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)

(See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' 1 Aug 96
RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' 4 Sept 96
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997)


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1995, 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite


Personal Web-page:
http://ArtOrg.com


Personal Web-Library:
http://Art-Org.com


References (available at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ao-notes.htm"):

AO-P001 'Helping Artists, or Helping Drug-addicts, or both?' of 7 July 1981
AO-P002 'On Selling Art' of 17 Aug 1981
AO-P003 'Product or Result of Art Organization' of 25 Aug 1981
AO-P004 'Art Org - Successful Artists' of 26 Aug 1981

AO-P005 'Make your activity viable, don't kill it!' of 30 Aug 1981
AO-P006 'Can't become rich by doing what you want to do' of 30 Aug 1981
AO-P007D 'Was Ist Kunst?' (in German language) of 1982
AO-P008 'Beautiful People' of 1982

AO-P009 'Customer viewpoint differentiated' of 13 Jan 1982
AO-P010 'Courage better than hope' of 29 Jan 1982
AO-P011 'Lowered Quality does not sell better' of 3 May 1982
AO-P012 'The PURPOSE of the ART ORG' of 22 Mar 1984

AO-P013 'The Artist Horst Jansen and His Alcohol' of 26 June 1984
AO-P014 'First policy of an Artist' of 26 June 1984
AO-P015 'Selling' of 4 July 1984
AO-P016 'Sane and producing artist defined' of 20 Dec 1984

AO-P017 'Survival Training for Artists and Artlovers' of 1982
AO-P018 'People who "can't buy"' of 20 Nov 1986
AO-P019 'Thoughts on Art Org Purposes and Goal' of 18 Feb 1987
AO-P020 'Purpose of the Art Org' of 1 Oct 1987

AO-P021 'Past Lives' of 8 Oct 1987
AO-P022 'What a little good intention can do for you' of 23 Oct 1987
AO-P023 'Back to Basics - Music' of 17 Mar 1988
AO-P024 'Back to Basics (also in Art)' of 17 Mar 1988

AO-P025 'Measuring success of Art-activity by income' of 15 Aug 1989
AO-P026 'Using sales-control ethically' of 3 Oct 1989
AO-P027 'Movies - Viewpoint to choose' of 11 Mar 1990
AO-P028 'Exchange for paintings' of 25 Nov 1990

AO-P029 'Completed work of Art, when it is' of 10 Dec 1990
AO-P030 'Communication in Art' of 15 Dec 1990
AO-P031 'Beware of "Art-supporters' of 3 Apr 1992
AO-P032 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992

AO-P033D 'Giacomo Biffi gegen Mozart' (in German language) of 12 Sept 1992
AO-P034 'Artists starting wrongly' of 18 Sept 1992
AO-P035 'Mona Lisa' of 8 Oct 1992
AO-P036 'Rehabilitating Society fastest' of 29 Oct 1992

AO-P037 'Ghostwriter defined (by another)' of 12 Nov 1992
AO-P038 'A fable - Leonardo's Fables' of 13 Nov 1992
AO-P039 'Ethics Presence' of 15 Nov 1992
AO-P040 'Note on Art' of 17 Oct 1993

AO-P041 'Public Relations when necessary' of 17 Oct 1993
AO-P042 'Enforced Beauty' of 19 Oct 1993
AO-P043 'The Quality of a work of Art' of 4 Dec 1993
AO-P044 'Two types of salesmen' of 16 Dec 1993

AO-P045 'Artists pretending to be alive' of 28 Dec 1993
AO-P046 'Producing Confusing Art' of 15 Jan 1994
AO-P047 '"Scared and obliged to buy"' of 27 Apr 1994
AO-P048 'Responsibility of the Artist for his public' of 10 June 1994

AO-P049 'Two Types of Artists' of 30 Sept 1994
AO-P050 'New Art - Modern Art' of 21 Feb 1995
AO-P051 'How To Look At People' of 5 June 1996



References (available at the Library "http://Art-Org.com"):

RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with L. Ron Hubbard Scientology' 18 Dec 95
RI-574i 'Michael Jackson will help to keep LRH away' 23 May 96

RI-576i 'The great Diana Ross is on our side (of course)' 23 May 96
RI-581i 'L. Ron Hubbard attacks Diana Ross (the great singer)' 27 May 96
RI-665i 'Diana Ross avoided L. Ron Hubbard' of 14 Aug 1996

RI-587i 'Actress Jane Fonda Looks Through L. Ron Hubbard, now' 31 May 96
RI-593i 'German Chancellor Helmut Kohl on L. Ron Hubbard' of 11 June 1996


RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 96
RI-262i 'Creating despite Suppressive Persons' of 20 Aug 1995

RI-205i 'FLAG "Tech" destroys Artists' of 8 June 1995
RI-488i 'Very able people at serious risk in Scientology' 23 Feb 1996

RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997

RI-514Ri 'Confessionals and Blackmail - VERY VERY IMPORTANT' of 16 Mar 96
RI-541i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - I' 20 Apr 96
RI-542i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - II' 2 May 96
RI-545i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - III' 20 May 96


RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996

These and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or

at the Library of Koos' writings on
http://Art-Org.com

or (also accessible with WWW-browser) at
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI

23 May 1996
revised 22 August 1997


RI-574Ri 'Michael Jackson keeps L. Ron Hubbard (Scientology fascism) away'


from Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-574Ri for Internet




"I will help you to keep the being L. Ron Hubbard away."

'Michael Jackson'




Telepathic Interview with Michael Jackson,
of 22 May 1996, 20:24 GMT,
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.


(An Auditor is someone who listens)

[Auditor:] Koos has saved your life last December,
what are YOU going to do for Koos? (LFBD's) LF's


[Note by Koos:
Michael Jackson
collapsed on stage in front of his audience,
and almost died, on 6 December 1995,
when he failed to face the domination
that L. Ron Hubbard and his Scientology Organization
were trying to exert on him.

When I heard this on the news,
we started an action
to restore Michael's spiritual strength
till he came out of coma.

(see RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with Hubbard Scientology'
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-413rb.htm)]



[Michael:]
"I thank you for your care and help."



[Auditor:] I perceive that Michael Jackson has a big [mental] space.

I notice that he has upsets with Scientology.



[Auditor:] I want to Assess [handle] your upsets with Scientology.

(Auditor Assesses two Breaks in Affinity, Reality and Communication
of Michael Jackson with Scientology.)



[Auditor:] Who is representing Scientology for you?

[Michael:]
"The being L. Ron Hubbard." F



[Auditor:] I am further Assessing your A-R-C-Breaks [upsets],
but this time about the being L. Ron Hubbard.

(Auditor Assesses ten Breaks in Affinity, Reality and Communication
of Michael Jackson with the being L. Ron Hubbard.)



[Auditor:] I like to let you know
that Koos
has declared the being L. Ron Hubbard
to be a Suppressive Person and
has kicked him out. LF LFBD

[Definition of 'Suppressive Person':
see the Understanding Suppression Series
(http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/usp.htm)]


[Michael:]
"OK, I understand.
This clears [frees up] my [mental] space."


VGI's [Very Good Indicators]

F/Nind [E-meter reaction indicating
truth established to Michael's satisfaction]



[Auditor:] Koos lets you know
that the battle
to keep L. Ron Hubbard out (and
to stop him from trying to dominate Mankind),
is far from completed. LFBD's



(Back to the original question:)

[Auditor:] Koos has saved your life last December,
what are YOU going to do for KOOS? LFBD

[Michael:]
"I will help you to keep the being L. Ron Hubbard away." LFBD's


[Note by Auditor:] Michael Jackson IS able to do that.


[Auditor:] Thank you, Michael.


[Michael:]
"And I put into your space
many successful performances
of whatever you are doing. [see http://ArtOrg.com ]

"To visualize such successful performances
before they actually take shape in reality
has always helped me.


"So, I want you successful!"

LFBD's-F/Nind

'Michael Jackson'


Total session time: 1 hr 12 mins

Highly specialized Telepathic Auditing
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 840 US $ total cost.




(The abbreviations sF(small Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall), LFBD(Long
Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe reactions on the
E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F, LF, LFBD), and release of
charge completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)

(see Telepathy Web-Page:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/telepathy.htm
RI-896i 'Telepathy - Questions about getting in communication'
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-896i.htm
RI-881i 'Basics of Telepathy - Vital Data about You' 1 June 97
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-881i.htm
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-771i.htm

and RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 1996
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' 1 Aug 96
RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' of 4 Sept 1996
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-687i.htm)



Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1996, 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite


Personal Web-page:
http://ArtOrg.com

Personal Web-Library:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/

Library Search Engine:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html



References (available at the Web-Library "http://Art-Org.com"):

- About Michael Jackson

RI-222Ri 'Michael Jackson is clean' of 1 July 1994
RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with L. Ron Hubbard Scientology' 18 Dec 95

RI-576i 'The great Diana Ross is on our side (of course)' 23 May 96

RI-832i 'Diana Ross - Helping Michael Jackson' of 21 Apr 1997
RI-831i 'Diana Ross - Care for Michael Jackson' of 20 Apr 1997
RI-830i 'Diana Ross - Responsibility for Michael Jackson' of 17 Apr 1997
RI-825i 'Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, Koos and care' of 15 Apr 1997


- About other Artists and Government helping against L. Ron Hubbard

RI-576i 'The great Diana Ross is on our side (of course)' 23 May 96
RI-581i 'L. Ron Hubbard attacks Diana Ross (the great singer)' 27 May 96
RI-665i 'Diana Ross avoided L. Ron Hubbard' of 14 Aug 1996

RI-587i 'Actress Jane Fonda Looks Through L. Ron Hubbard, now' 31 May 96
RI-593i 'German Chancellor Helmut Kohl on L. Ron Hubbard' of 11 June 1996


- About Art and Artists

RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 96
RI-262i 'Creating despite Suppressive Persons' of 20 Aug 1995


- About Hubbard-Scientology-fascism destroying Artists

RI-205i 'FLAG "Tech" destroys Artists' of 8 June 1995
RI-488i 'Very able people at serious risk in Scientology' 23 Feb 1996

RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with L. Ron Hubbard Scientology' 18 Dec 95


- About the evil of L. Ron Hubbard and of his Scientology-Organization

RI-650Ri 'All Scientologists destroy your Civil Rights everywhere' 5 Aug 96
RI-806i 'Scientology-"Religion" - evil in business and science' 16 Mar 97

RI-783i 'A lesson in Hubbard-Scientology Public Relations' of 19 Jan 1997
RI-732i 'The Evil in L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology Philosophy' of 10 Nov 96

RI-546i 'Support for the being LRH now is Treason to Mankind' 4 May 96
RI-538i 'Official Expulsion of the being LRH from Scn' 17 Apr 96

RI-907i 'A glimpse of spiritual warfare' of 16 July 1997
RI-868i 'L. Ron Hubbard's Black Magic against Koos Nolst Trenite' 19 May 97


- About helping people

RI-631i 'Definition of "Woman"' of 12 July 1996
RI-629i 'Definition of "Care"' of 12 July 1996
RI-781BPI 'Raising Children - or Keeping Them Small?' of 16 Jan 1997

RI-537i 'The Right to Demand Awareness' of 15 Apr 1996
RI-801i '"You can never leave" - The spiritual universe' of 14 Mar 1997
RI-785i 'On Not Remedying Disagreements - "Not Talking"' of 24 Jan 1997

RI-602i 'Definition of Power' of 20 June 1996
RI-705i 'Society Resurgence, Use of Rules' of 9 Oct 1996

RI-925i 'Restoring life-force - Affinity for who and what IS THERE' Aug 97
RI-918i 'Spiritual Power defined correctly' of 4 Aug 1997


- About facing evil and insanity

RI-908i 'The Ostrich-factor - on facing evil or criminality' 16 July 97
RI-926i 'I do not respect the right of others to be insane' of 19 Aug 1997

RI-058Ri 'Fair Game Series - Treatment of Enemies' of 1 Jan 95
RI-487i 'Dialogue: On Enemies and Hostility' of 20 Feb 1996
RI-535i '"An Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend" = INSANE' 10 Apr 96


- About RI-Bulletins

RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996


These references and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or

at the Library of Koos' writings on
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/usp.htm
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/telepathy.htm

or at the Archives at
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI/USP

1 July 1995
revised 10 March 1997


RI-222Ri 'Michael Jackson, Help for him'


from Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-222Ri for Internet

(Revised to increase quality)


Includes a list of 'Notes on Art' by Ambassador for Mankind.



"Hey, you know - Auditing [by Ambassador for Mankind] can be fun!
It's [looking at and] admitting what I created!"

'Michael Jackson'



reference:
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-771i.htm




I am showing you the report of
the Telepathic Communication Assist
done for Michael Jackson at a time
when I perceived he needed my help.

This Telepathic Interview, done some time ago, on 5 December 1994,
proves further
that the (June 1995) allegations against Michael
are false and are solely borne out of
the very well known vicious and malicious intentions
of some of the citizens of Earth
against the very able, against the very alive.





Telepathic Communication Assist for Michael Jackson,
on 5 December 1994, 14:00 GMT
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.


At 14:00 GMT

[Note by Auditor (someone who listens carefully:]

Before I, Auditor, started the session,
I went into telepathic communication
with Michael Jackson.

This is what I perceived:
Michael is taking drugs to perform on stage.
He needs to come off drugs.
And he needs an
"Interiorization/Exteriorization Handling"
(he is frequently changing
from being exterior from his body,
to being interiorized into his body
and he has trouble with that).

LFBD's-F/Nind

I indicated to Michael Jackson
that the above is the case.


At 14:25 GMT, 25 minutes later:

[Auditor:] What are you withholding from [not telling] Koos?

[Michael:]
"Drugs, headaches,
unpleasant Exteriorizations [going out of the body]
on stage while performing, only recently.

"I am forced out of my body
by the dope [drugs] and the noise of the music.

"My head seems to be under heavy pressure,
like floating alone, and
I find myself moving higher
and higher up, and
I perceive my body performing, dancing,
strangely,
lonely,
and
I perceive my people
(audience,
musicians,
technicians)
all at once, like
in a padded... foggy mass. LF LFBD


"It's only for a few seconds [that that happens],
and it has repeated several times since,
since when??
It's hard to continue the show,
it is an awful strain to keep singing:
How do you keep singing
when your body is far below you? LF


"Then I want to
'cut the cords [lines, streams of energy
which anyone creates to steer and command his body
and to get sensation from the body]' -
but I am afraid. LF

"Sometimes I just wanted to let go
and float off like a balloon.

"But I get down to my body,
I always got down,
and
then I am perceiving my head like lead,
something pushing me down.


"And all the time I have my motions well grooved in,
you wouldn't notice anything.

"Then it's gone again after some minute.
And a headache remains.


"But most of the time it's just great,
free floating, light,
I am at ease with all those kids around me.

"I like people, and they like me."



[Auditor:] What have you done against Koos? LF LF

[Michael:]
"My wife [Lisa Marie Presley] tells me
it's an Overt [a non-survival act] to leave Scientology,
my Auditor told me
it's an Overt [a non-survival act] to leave my wife.

"I guess it is.
But, they are all so serious!" LFBD


[Auditor:] What are
they (Scientologists, your Auditor, your Case Supervisor)
so serious about?

[Michael:]
"That I took drugs
- hardly take any now, except this present dope.

"That I was promiscuous, F
that's show-biz [show business], I knew a lot of girls." F's



[Auditor:] What SHOULD they really be serious about?
What non-survival act SHOULD they find out? LFBD

[Note by Auditor:] Mental space clears up. LF


[Michael:]
"Some 20 years ago, LFBD
I helped a friend to drugs,
and he died,
I helped him for a good period of time
to have money to buy his stuff. LF

"He wasn't such a good performer,
he was a heavy druggy, poor kid, wouldn't come off."


[Auditor:] Did you kill him? LF

[Michael:]
"Not directly. I contributed to him dying."


[Auditor:] What did you do?

[Michael:]
"I financed his drugs for three years." LF


[Auditor:] When was that?

[Michael:]
"In 1980, F
1981, LF
1982." LF


[Auditor:] When did he die?

[Michael:]
"In 1982." LFBD


[Auditor:] Where did he die?

[Michael:]
"In Los Angeles.

"I seldomly saw him in these three years. LF

"I thought what I did was being responsible for him. LFBD
He shouldn't have died." LF



[Auditor:] What are you withholding from Koos? LF

[Michael:]
"Being different personalities." LF LFBD


[Auditor:] About which personality
should Koos not, nor anybody else, find out?

[Michael:]
"It is an evil being, a satanic being.
It is the other side of me. LF
It exists. It doesn't exist. LFBD


[Auditor:] When was it? F

[Michael:]
"When was what?"


[Auditor:] When did this being (this personality) exist?

[Michael:]
"Well, yes, it existed! LFBD
It was me!"


[Auditor:] When was it?

[Michael:]
"In the year 1474."


[Note by Auditor:] I get a mental picture from him:

A deserted town in Italy near the sea;
a wide square;
block-shaped buildings around.
Far from the center of the square,
a harbour town in midday sun-glare.
A crippled man with scars in his face,
sitting in the shade of a fountain
in the middle of the square. LFBD


[Note by Auditor:] Michael confronts, faces
this Beingness (his personality) of that time. LFBD LFBD


[Michael:]
"I hated children.
They were throwing stones at me. I threw stones at them.
I shouted at people. Cursed them.
Real crazy!
I made people scared. I laughed at them.


[Michael now, about what he did then:]
"I don't like that.
Sometimes I had impulses to be that ugly to people,
to my audience." LFBD



[Auditor:] How else ugly?

[Michael:]
"Shock them, scare them,
keep them running away from me in terror, and
laugh about them.

"When I was mad at
a crowd that
surrounded me and shouted insanely and tore at my clothes, and LFBD
trampled each other down and
behaved like animals,
then
I would have liked to be a bat or a vampire:
I would have lifted myself up out of their midst, and
I would have, with my fangs,
grabbed one after the other and
pulled them out of the crowd and up, and
I would have, with a laughter like a goat,
liked to drop one after the other into a nearby lake.

"That ugly!" LFBD


[Note by Auditor:] Relief of Michael. LFBD


[Michael laughs:]
"Hey, you know - Auditing [by Ambassador for Mankind] can be fun!
It's admitting what I created!
OK, I created such a creature as being myself.

"I have created a lot of images of myself, LF
some I am proud to show, LF
others I rather hide. LF

"Might be better [to hide them].
But it's also good to talk about it."


[Note by Auditor:] I give Michael a good acknowledgment:

[Auditor to Michael:] Right! That's Auditing [by Ambassador for Mankind]!


(Very Good Indicators of Michael Jackson)

LFBD's-F/Nind

'Michael Jackson'


Total session time: 2 hrs 31 min

Total E-meter TA-motion: 13.3 divisions

Highly specialized Telepathic Check Auditing
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 1,762 US $ total cost.



(The abbreviations F(Fall), LF(Long Fall), LFBD(Long Fall Blow
Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe reactions on the E-meter,
indicating mental charge (F, LF, LFBD), and release of charge
completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)

(See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' 1 Aug 96
RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' 4 Sept 96
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997)


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1995, 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite


Personal Web-page:
http://ArtOrg.com


Personal Web-Library:
http://Art-Org.com


References (available at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ao-notes.htm"):

AO-P001 'Helping Artists, or Helping Drug-addicts, or both?' of 7 July 1981
AO-P002 'On Selling Art' of 17 Aug 1981
AO-P003 'Product or Result of Art Organization' of 25 Aug 1981
AO-P004 'Art Org - Successful Artists' of 26 Aug 1981

AO-P005 'Make your activity viable, don't kill it!' of 30 Aug 1981
AO-P006 'Can't become rich by doing what you want to do' of 30 Aug 1981
AO-P007D 'Was Ist Kunst?' (in German language) of 1982
AO-P008 'Beautiful People' of 1982

AO-P009 'Customer viewpoint differentiated' of 13 Jan 1982
AO-P010 'Courage better than hope' of 29 Jan 1982
AO-P011 'Lowered Quality does not sell better' of 3 May 1982
AO-P012 'The PURPOSE of the ART ORG' of 22 Mar 1984

AO-P013 'The Artist Horst Jansen and His Alcohol' of 26 June 1984
AO-P014 'First policy of an Artist' of 26 June 1984
AO-P015 'Selling' of 4 July 1984
AO-P016 'Sane and producing artist defined' of 20 Dec 1984

AO-P017 'Survival Training for Artists and Artlovers' of 1982
AO-P018 'People who "can't buy"' of 20 Nov 1986
AO-P019 'Thoughts on Art Org Purposes and Goal' of 18 Feb 1987
AO-P020 'Purpose of the Art Org' of 1 Oct 1987

AO-P021 'Past Lives' of 8 Oct 1987
AO-P022 'What a little good intention can do for you' of 23 Oct 1987
AO-P023 'Back to Basics - Music' of 17 Mar 1988
AO-P024 'Back to Basics (also in Art)' of 17 Mar 1988

AO-P025 'Measuring success of Art-activity by income' of 15 Aug 1989
AO-P026 'Using sales-control ethically' of 3 Oct 1989
AO-P027 'Movies - Viewpoint to choose' of 11 Mar 1990
AO-P028 'Exchange for paintings' of 25 Nov 1990

AO-P029 'Completed work of Art, when it is' of 10 Dec 1990
AO-P030 'Communication in Art' of 15 Dec 1990
AO-P031 'Beware of "Art-supporters' of 3 Apr 1992
AO-P032 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992

AO-P033D 'Giacomo Biffi gegen Mozart' (in German language) of 12 Sept 1992
AO-P034 'Artists starting wrongly' of 18 Sept 1992
AO-P035 'Mona Lisa' of 8 Oct 1992
AO-P036 'Rehabilitating Society fastest' of 29 Oct 1992

AO-P037 'Ghostwriter defined (by another)' of 12 Nov 1992
AO-P038 'A fable - Leonardo's Fables' of 13 Nov 1992
AO-P039 'Ethics Presence' of 15 Nov 1992
AO-P040 'Note on Art' of 17 Oct 1993

AO-P041 'Public Relations when necessary' of 17 Oct 1993
AO-P042 'Enforced Beauty' of 19 Oct 1993
AO-P043 'The Quality of a work of Art' of 4 Dec 1993
AO-P044 'Two types of salesmen' of 16 Dec 1993

AO-P045 'Artists pretending to be alive' of 28 Dec 1993
AO-P046 'Producing Confusing Art' of 15 Jan 1994
AO-P047 '"Scared and obliged to buy"' of 27 Apr 1994
AO-P048 'Responsibility of the Artist for his public' of 10 June 1994

AO-P049 'Two Types of Artists' of 30 Sept 1994
AO-P050 'New Art - Modern Art' of 21 Feb 1995
AO-P051 'How To Look At People' of 5 June 1996



References (available at the Library "http://Art-Org.com"):

RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with L. Ron Hubbard Scientology' 18 Dec 95
RI-574i 'Michael Jackson will help to keep LRH away' 23 May 96

RI-576i 'The great Diana Ross is on our side (of course)' 23 May 96
RI-581i 'L. Ron Hubbard attacks Diana Ross (the great singer)' 27 May 96
RI-665i 'Diana Ross avoided L. Ron Hubbard' of 14 Aug 1996

RI-587i 'Actress Jane Fonda Looks Through L. Ron Hubbard, now' 31 May 96
RI-593i 'German Chancellor Helmut Kohl on L. Ron Hubbard' of 11 June 1996


RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 96
RI-262i 'Creating despite Suppressive Persons' of 20 Aug 1995

RI-205i 'FLAG "Tech" destroys Artists' of 8 June 1995
RI-488i 'Very able people at serious risk in Scientology' 23 Feb 1996

RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997

RI-514Ri 'Confessionals and Blackmail - VERY VERY IMPORTANT' of 16 Mar 96
RI-541i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - I' 20 Apr 96
RI-542i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - II' 2 May 96
RI-545i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - III' 20 May 96


RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996

These and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or

at the Library of Koos' writings on
http://Art-Org.com

or (also accessible with WWW-browser) at
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI

RI-576i 'The great Diana Ross is on our side (of course)'


from Ambassador for Mankind (Ron's Inspector)


Message # RI-576i for Internet



Interview-session with Diana Ross, on 23 May 1996, 18:35 GMT,
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.

[Auditor:] 'LFBD's LFBD's' while I "tune in"
and start communicating to her.

[Diana in a big space
and with ARC (liking, understanding)
for people and with interest:]

"Hey, I am listening!"

[Auditor:] She shows an attentive interest,
full of ARC. LFBD's


[Diana:] "You want me to listen to Koos?
OK, I do. LFBD

"I perceive
concern for humanity, F
beauty, and love for people,
anger, and invalidation, and sorrow,
of someone
who is used to reach out wide and far,
and is forced to withhold his strength. LFBD's

"I can see that Koos needs help
to have his beauty really come out
and create joy in others.

"You don't have to tell me anything yet.

"Koos's message is life. LFBD
True?

"And in this we all should join hands? LF
Yes, I agree with all my heart, and I try to play my part.

"So there must be something I can do for Koos. LFBD's

"I am listening to you now."


[Auditor:] Thank you, Diana.

[Koos to Diana:] Do you know why Michael Jackson
almost died last December?

[Diana:] "He had lost his usual certainty of himself.
Certainty of his place in the world
and what he can do for people from there."


[Koos to Diana:] There is a particular person
who made Michael lose his certainty.
Do you know who that was, and still is trying to?

[Diana:] "No! I know it was not his wife."

[Koos to Diana:] When we told Michael who it was,
he completely revived again
to his usual certainty of self.

[Diana:] "Who then was it?"

[Koos to Diana:] It was L. Ron Hubbard,
the Founder of the Church of Scientology, personally.

L. Ron Hubbard cannot have it
that others are
bigger and more able than himself,
and Michael is bigger and more able
and much much more decent
than the being L. Ron Hubbard. LFBD

[Diana:] "Wait, wait LFBD
I get this confirmed by Michael just now."


[Auditor:] Big spaces joining and exchanging information.
I am wide and have big space to experience that.
Or, more truly:
the communication with Diana
and the experiencing of her wide space
made me wide, too, and exterior.

[Koos to Diana:] It is this being
that we are up against at the moment. LFBD

He has made himself very strong and very aware
through his inventions called Scientology.

He is making other people strong and aware
with the purpose to dominate these people
into following his and only his orders unconditionally,
and to mow down, cave in, destroy,
murder or kill anybody
who exposes and disagrees
with the destructive parts of his actions.


How come you have not been informed of this?


[Diana:] "I have not been informed of this.

"But I am glad you tell me now frankly what you know.

"I am seeing as you describe L. Ron Hubbard['s world, it is]
such a different world than mine or Michael's,
but both worlds are existing
on the same space of our Earth,
and many many other worlds, beside it.

"Somebody who does this [what L. Ron Hubbard does], must be sick.

"I do not want to have Michael's world destroyed,
nor mine, nor yours, nor anybody else's.

"We try to get people out of misery,
and NOT push them in.

"We:
Michael, many other artists and great people,
and you want that, too.

"I have cut through many knots,
I have dissipated many clouds,
I have made many people feel their strength again, LFBD
I think I can help you."


[Koos to Diana:] Good, that will be great.

How would you like to help Koos?


[Diana:] "I have the power to lift people up:
during my performances,
in my daily life,
simply...
maybe it isn't simple,
because it isn't simple for many...
but I say simply,
because I love people and want that they do well.

"I can look at what 'clouds' L. Ron Hubbard puts out
to make people feel small,
and now, as I know what he has done to Michael,
I think I can evaporate these 'clouds'
and make the air free again." LFBD's


[Koos to Diana:] How would you like Koos to help YOU?

[Diana:] "You can help me
to make people more stably experience
their true value. LFBD

"I achieve it many times,
but it's not lasting. LFBD

"How often I had wished
to see these thousands of people that I sang to,
remain in the heightened state I led them into.

"That's my sincere wish."


[Koos to Diana:] Good. I am doing that.

One of the examples is the person
that you are talking to right now [Jutta],
and I have done this over the ages.

Right now and since 20 years
when I became bigger and stronger
than L. Ron Hubbard,
I am being very heavily attacked by this being
who has about 50,000 admirers and supporters.

It is of course hard to do my job
under those circumstances.

He is not easy to detect for others
because
he makes people more able and stronger
in order to then dominate them
by the promise
"If you don't do exactly what I want,
I will stop making you stronger
and I will cave you in, fully and completely."

I have detected this person
since half a year
and it took me two years
of day and night work
to find out what he was doing to people.

You are right in that he works with putting out clouds,
but he puts out these clouds very selectively.

I am publishing my discoveries on the Internet,
and this person does not like that at all,
so he is very heavily
trying to cloud me and my family."


[Koos to Diana:] What further help
would you like to give Koos? LFBD

[Diana:] "I will let others know about it.

"So it's L. Ron Hubbard,
and not 'Scientology' that is the problem.


"But tell me, what advice would you give someone
who is taken up by Scientology?"


[Koos to Diana:] I would tell him to
get as much training as he can get,
[only training and free co-auditing,
DON'T buy auditing,
but get it - also any preparatory auditing -
for free, by TRAINING as an Auditor.
DON'T take orders from
Senior Case Supervisors or Ethics Officers,
as these are the most corrupted of all staff
(Note by Koos)]
and buy as many books [and tapes for the training]
as he can get
and then get the hell out of there!

And never join staff, [NEVER the Sea Org]
and continue to help people alone
without the Church of Scientology.

And wait till Koos and others
have removed L. Ron Hubbard
and four or five of his criminal friends
from the Church of Scientology
and possibly from Earth. LFBD

Koos has already succeeded in removing
the most vicious person
L. Ron Hubbard put in charge
of all the Churches of Scientology,
the person who is called David Miscavige.

And I would advise them
to follow the news on the Internet
of how things are developing
about the removal of L. Ron Hubbard.

That was a good question [of yours, Diana]. LFBD


[Diana:] "Now I understand you well. F/N's

"You can count on my help
to prevent L. Ron Hubbard
to 'cloud' people LFBD's
and make them lose their certainty about themselves again.

"What happened to Michael [Jackson]
should not happen to others.

F/Nind


[Koos to Diana:] Thank you very much, Diana,
you are a great person,
but you know that already!

[Diana:] Thank YOU!

Diana Ross"

Total session time: 02:40 min

(The abbreviations F(Fall) LF(Long Fall), LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down)
and F/N(Floating Needle) describe reactions on the E-meter,
indicating mental charge (F, LF, LFBD), and release of charge
completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1996 by Koos Nolst Trenite


reference:
RI-222i 'Michael Jackson is clean' of 1 July 1995
RI-413Ri 'Michael Jackson at FLAG' of 18 Dec 1995
RI-574i 'Michael Jackson will help to keep LRH away' 23 May 96

RI-19i 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-205i 'FLAG "Tech" destroys Artists' of 8 June 1995

RI-407i 'Cleanup of ALL Scientologists' of 13 Dec 1995
RI-408i 'Emotional Charge about LRH - handling' of 13 Dec 95


RI-217i 'Choosing Sides - As Ethics' of 24 June 1995
RI-242Ri 'Being There - Freedom to Act' of 22 July 1995
RI-235i 'Handling people with Understanding' of 14 July 1995

RI-537i 'The Right to Demand Awareness' of 15 Apr 1996
RI-514i 'Confessionals and Blackmail -...IMPORTANT' 16 Mar 96

RI-541i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - I' 20 Apr 96
RI-542i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - II' 2 May 96
RI-545i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - III' 20 May 96


RI-567i 'Helping Scientologists beat L. Ron Hubbard' 19 May 96
RI-575i 'How L. Ron Hubbard breaks Scientologists' integrity' 23 May 96

RI-546i 'Support for the being LRH now is Treason...' 4 May 96
RI-536i 'A talk with Koos on L. Ron Hubbard's secrets' 12 Apr 96

RI-421i 'The Charges against L. Ron Hubbard' of 21 Dec 1995
RI-488i 'Very able people at serious risk in Scn' 23 Feb 1996


RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996

These and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or

(with WWW-browser) at
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI
(with ftp) at
thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI

RI-831i 'Diana Ross - Care for Michael Jackson'


from Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-831i for Internet



"Yes, I could have cared for him all the time."

'Diana Ross'




(This is part of a series of RI-Bulletins with Diana Ross and Koos
helping each other to care for humanity:
Search for 'Diana Ross'
at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html".)



Telepathic Interview with Diana Ross,
on 19 April 1997, 22:03 GMT
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.


[Auditor:] We continue with the session.

(Continued from
RI-830i 'Diana Ross - Responsibility for Michael Jackson' of 17 Apr 97)


[Auditor:] What could you have helped Michael (Jackson) in
but didn't? LF's

[Diana:]
"I could have helped him
to control his use of drugs,
to control and stop it." LFBD


[Koos:] So how could you have done that?

[Diana:]
"I could have talked to him about drugs,
I could have asked him what kick drugs give him, and
I could have helped him to find out
how to get what he wants from drugs
also in a different way and without drugs.

"I could have told him
that I myself want that he refrains from taking drugs."


[Koos:] What could you have helped Michael in, but didn't?

[Diana:]
"I could have talked more often with him
about problems he tried to push away, and tried not to show. LFBD

"I have done this as well [not let my upsets show]
often during my own performances,
and
I considered it as a sign of strength of him
not to let his problems show during his performances."


[Koos:] And how would that be before or after performances?

[Diana:]
"With my children
I take problems up when I see them.
With others, even with friends,
I have a tendency to respect when they
do not want things to be discussed. LFBD

"But when they want to talk about it,
I am there for them.

"What I did on a short term basis
was to help Michael or others
to concentrate on the work to be done or
to indicate that I see
that there is something he or another
doesn't want to talk about and
to give an encouraging energy flow:
Letting him know that I believe
he can get over whatever it was,
when he didn't want to talk." LFBD


[Koos:] Do you realize
that the most severe problems that somebody has
lie in those things that he doesn't want to discuss?

If he wants to discuss [one of] them,
then he wants to have somebody else's viewpoint on it and
then the problem is already half solved
because
he is willing to look at it and
he is willing to compare his own viewpoint with those of others and
he is willing to let others look at his problem or at the problem.

By that alone, it is already almost solved. LFBD

But it is the problems
that he does NOT want to have others look at, or
that he doesn't even want to look at himself,
that trip him up the most (make him stumble in life the most),
that are the biggest stumbling blocks in his life.

So, [your] withdrawing because he doesn't want to talk about it
is the worst service you can do to him,
whereby of course
you choose the correct times and circumstances
to get him to talk about it.

Can you follow this?

[Diana:]
"Certainly.

"This makes me understand
that my attitude lacks understanding:
My attitude of 'respecting' LFBD
someone's silence about his problems LFBD
as a sign of him having decided
'to push through it, all by himself',
as a 'sign of strength'.

"Then maybe help is needed MOST, LFBD
to encourage someone to talk about his problems."


[Koos:] Right.
How would you describe
the way I would express my respect for a person? LFBD

[Diana:]
"I think, or better, I observe that
when you notice that someone
needs some guidance LFBD
or needs to be told to look at something
that he himself doesn't like to look at,
you approach the other person directly and
[you] intend to help.

"That's how you express your respect."


[Auditor:] What could you have helped Michael in, but didn't?

[Diana:]
"Give him advice on money matters?
No.

"Give him advice to care for others, further than he did already?
Yes.

"Give him advice to care for his health and bodily strength?
No, he got cared for on that." LFBD


[Auditor:] What could you have helped Michael in but didn't?

[Diana:]
"I could have kept closer contact with him all the time." LFBD LFBD


[Auditor:] What could you have helped KOOS in, but didn't?

[Diana:]
"I could have contacted you in the physical universe.

"I could have told others about you. LFBD

"I could have sent you money. LFBD

"I could have made our communication
extend - from my side - into the physical universe." LFBD


[Auditor:] What could you have helped Michael Jackson in? LFBD's

[Diana:]
"Yes, I could have cared for him all the time. LFBD-F/Nind


[Koos:] So we have here a completion of answering this question.

Is there anything you would like to
tell me or ask before we end this session?

[Diana:]
"You gave me a valuable lesson today
about looking out for LFBD
people who do not want to talk about their problems." LFBD


'Diana Ross'


Total session time: 2 hrs 22 min

Highly specialized Telepathic Interview
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 1,657 US $ cost.



(Continued in
RI-832i 'Diana Ross - Helping Michael Jackson' of 21 Apr 1997)



(The abbreviations sF(small Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall),
LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe
reactions on the E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F,
LF, LFBD), and release of charge completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)

(See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' of 1 Aug 96
RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' of 4 Sept 96
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997)


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite


Personal Web-page:
http://ArtOrg.com

Personal Web-Library:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/

Library Search Engine:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html


References (available at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ao-notes.htm"):

AO-P001 'Helping Artists, or Helping Drug-addicts, or both?' of 7 July 1981
AO-P004 'Art Org - Successful Artists' of 26 Aug 1981
AO-P005 'Make your activity viable, don't kill it!' of 30 Aug 1981
AO-P006 'Can't become rich by doing what you want to do' of 30 Aug 1981

AO-P011 'Lowered Quality does not sell better' of 3 May 1982
AO-P017 'Survival Training for Artists and Artlovers' of 1982
AO-P025 'Measuring success of Art-activity by income' of 15 Aug 1989
AO-P029 'Completed work of Art, when it is' of 10 Dec 1990

AO-P030 'Communication in Art' of 15 Dec 1990
AO-P043 'The Quality of a work of Art' of 4 Dec 1993
AO-P048 'Responsibility of the Artist for his public' of 10 June 1994


References (available at the Library "http://Art-Org.com"):

RI-222Ri 'Michael Jackson, Help for him' of 1 July 1995
RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with L. Ron Hubbard Scientology' 18 Dec 95
RI-574i 'Michael Jackson will help to keep LRH away' 23 May 96


RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 96
RI-262i 'Creating despite Suppressive Persons' of 20 Aug 1995

RI-488i 'Very able people at serious risk in Scientology' 23 Feb 1996

RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997

RI-514Ri 'Confessionals and Blackmail - VERY VERY IMPORTANT' of 16 Mar 96
RI-541i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - I' 20 Apr 96
RI-542i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - II' 2 May 96
RI-545i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - III' 20 May 96


RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996

These and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or

at the Library of Koos' writings on
http://Art-Org.com

or (also accessible with WWW-browser) at
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI

17 April 1997


RI-830i 'Diana Ross - Responsibility for Michael Jackson'


from Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-830i for Internet



"I thought I cared for quite a lot of people,
but I think I could do much more."

'Diana Ross'





(This is part of a series of RI-Bulletins with Diana Ross and Koos
helping each other to care for humanity:
Search for 'Diana Ross'
at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html".)



Telepathic Interview with Diana Ross,
on 17 April 1997, 20:24 GMT
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.


[Auditor:] What has Michael Jackson withheld from you?

(she is looking)

[Diana:]
"There are many things which he hasn't told me.

"I consider it everyone's right to have their privacy. LFBD


[Koos:] What did he not tell you that he should have told you,
either
for his own well-being, or
for your well-being, or
for the well-being of others?

[Diana:]
"He didn't tell me
about his experiences with Scientology, and
he didn't tell me
that he was really upset about
attempts to make him into a Scientology celebrity
[who is] engaging in and
[who is] being used
for promotion for Scientology
like John Travolta or others [are],
when he [Michael] came privately
to get the personal enhancement that he was promised."


[Koos:] Was there something that would have been
either for his own well-being
or for your well-being
or for the well-being of others
to tell you about?

[Diana:]
"He should have told me and others
what he was upset about and
why he left,
so that others get more reality about Scientology."


[Koos:] Very good!
This is the meaning of my [question]
when I asked what has Michael withheld from you.

We continue with this question:
What else has Michael Jackson withheld from you?

(after having repeated the question several times)


[Koos:] OK!
If you do not have an answer to this question,
then we go to the next question, and that is:

What has Michael Jackson done to you
that diminished
either your well-being,
or his well-being,
or the well-being of others?

[Diana:]
"He hasn't done anything to me.

"I have no mis-emotions [bad emotions] against him."


[Koos:] We are entering here the subject of responsibility
which goes together with looking at what somebody is doing.

So, I'd like to re-formulate the question:
What responsibility could Michael have taken for you
which he didn't?

[Diana:]
"That question makes me aware
that I didn't EXPECT of him
to take responsibility for me.

"My problem at a time in my life was
that others took nearly all responsibility for me,
and I had to insist that I get responsibility for myself."


[Koos:] Tell me the difference
between
'somebody taking responsibility away from you'
and
'someone taking RESPONSIBILITY FOR you?'

[Diana:]
"One is
keeping life away from me, and
inhibiting my understanding of it and
declining to teach me, or
declining to let me find out myself
the skill of running my own affairs,
the other is
helping me and advising me to be successful in it."


[Koos:] Very good!

So we return to the question:
What responsibility could Michael have taken for YOU
which he didn't?

[Diana:]
"I see no moment in my life where he could have done so.


[Koos:] Well, well, well, well!

Could you imagine Michael doing anything for you
which would help you to increase your responsibility? LFBD

[Diana:]
"I normally get together with the people I want to work with.

"I have no plan on Michael for that."


[Koos:] What responsibility could Michael Jackson have taken for KOOS
that he [Michael] didn't take?

[Diana:]
"He could have validated you, Koos, for your help,
by getting in contact with you,
finding out what you need help in:
In any Art project or
in any project regarding the Church of Scientology,
or [something] else."
(see RI-222Ri 'Michael Jackson, Help for him' of 1 July 1995
RI-413RBi 'M. Jackson broke with L. Ron Hubbard Scientology' 18 Dec 95
RI-574i 'Michael Jackson will help to keep LRH away' 23 May 96)


[Koos:] What responsibility could you have taken for Michael
which you didn't?

(no answer from Diana yet)


[Koos:] Could you have stopped him from taking drugs? LFBD

[Diana:]
"I doubt [it], but I never tried."


[Koos:] Could you have taken responsibility
that Michael takes more care of his friends?

[Diana:]
"Offhand I would say:

"Hardly,
Michael has made up his mind
that too many people wanted to give him advice on his life, and
that he would decide personal matters alone.

"But I understand your pointing out to me
that I did not give him much help.

"Well, I seem to come to the same conclusion
from what you tell me.


[Koos:] It always needs somebody else
to help one realize what one doesn't look at oneself.

I wish I had some people
to look at those things that I don't look at
- as I find those people extremely valuable. LF's

[Diana:]
"I agree in that."


[Koos:] What could you have helped Michael in, but didn't?

[Diana:]
"Could we have made some projects together??

"I am not sure about that."


[Koos:] You knew him as a boy and
I am sure he looked up to you and
I am sure you had a great influence on him
when you had him in your shows and
when he was around you.

So,
what help could you have given him there,
what responsibility could you have taken for him there,
apart from having him in your show,
what responsibility for him as a being
for his life,
for his family life,
for his personal well-being,
for his problems,
for his education,
for his relations with others and so on.

[Diana:]
"Right, there is a lot that I did
for my children [which was] self-understood [to me]
which I didn't do for him.


[Koos:] Good! For instance?

[Diana:]
"I could have had an influence on him
regarding whom he chooses as his friends. LFBD

"I could have, or should have, had a serious word with him
regarding drugs. LFBD

"I could have cared to find out
how he is doing in life as a private person."


[Koos:] It's getting late here.
I'd like to continue next time.

Is there anything that you would like to say or ask
before we end off for now?

[Diana:]
"I thought I cared for quite a lot of people,
but I think I could do much more.

"And I am a bit ASHAMED about
having thought
that I am - despite all my occupations and family - somehow alone.

"There is still so much to do.


[Koos:] Do you understand
that it is one and a half hour past midnight here and
that I still want to help Jutta now
to get herself in better shape and
that we will continue at a better time?
(Continued in
RI-831i 'Diana Ross - Care for Michael Jackson' of 20 Apr 97)

[Diana:]
"That's understood.

"Thanks for your thoughts for me and your questions.


[Koos:] It's a great pleasure to be in communication with you.
We end the session now.



'Diana Ross'


Total session time: 2 hrs 55 min

Highly specialized Telepathic Interview
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 2,042 US $ cost.



(The abbreviations sF(small Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall),
LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe
reactions on the E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F,
LF, LFBD), and release of charge completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)

(See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' of 1 Aug 96
RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' of 4 Sept 96
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997)


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite


Personal Web-page:
http://ArtOrg.com

Personal Web-Library:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/

Library Search Engine:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html


References (available at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ao-notes.htm"):

AO-P001 'Helping Artists, or Helping Drug-addicts, or both?' of 7 July 1981
AO-P004 'Art Org - Successful Artists' of 26 Aug 1981
AO-P005 'Make your activity viable, don't kill it!' of 30 Aug 1981
AO-P006 'Can't become rich by doing what you want to do' of 30 Aug 1981

AO-P011 'Lowered Quality does not sell better' of 3 May 1982
AO-P017 'Survival Training for Artists and Artlovers' of 1982
AO-P025 'Measuring success of Art-activity by income' of 15 Aug 1989
AO-P029 'Completed work of Art, when it is' of 10 Dec 1990

AO-P030 'Communication in Art' of 15 Dec 1990
AO-P043 'The Quality of a work of Art' of 4 Dec 1993
AO-P048 'Responsibility of the Artist for his public' of 10 June 1994


References (available at the Library "http://Art-Org.com"):

RI-222Ri 'Michael Jackson, Help for him' of 1 July 1995
RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with L. Ron Hubbard Scientology' 18 Dec 95
RI-574i 'Michael Jackson will help to keep LRH away' 23 May 96


RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 96
RI-262i 'Creating despite Suppressive Persons' of 20 Aug 1995

RI-488i 'Very able people at serious risk in Scientology' 23 Feb 1996

RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997

RI-514Ri 'Confessionals and Blackmail - VERY VERY IMPORTANT' of 16 Mar 96
RI-541i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - I' 20 Apr 96
RI-542i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - II' 2 May 96
RI-545i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - III' 20 May 96


RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996

These and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or

at the Library of Koos' writings on
http://Art-Org.com

or (also accessible with WWW-browser) at
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI

15 April 1997


RI-825i 'Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, Koos and care'


from Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-825i for Internet



"It's actually one of my purposes
to help artists to lead a balanced life
with responsibility for all parts of their life
and not only for their performance."

'Ambassador for Mankind'



(This is part of a series of RI-Bulletins with Diana Ross and Koos
helping each other to care for humanity:
Search for 'Diana Ross'
at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html".)



Telepathic Interview with Diana Ross,
on 14 April 1997, 20:15 GMT
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.


[Auditor:] We continue the session.

[Not all sessions are being published -
only those that clearly have useful data
for a large number of people. (Note by Koos)]


[Auditor:] What about Michael Jackson
have you wanted to understand? LFBD

[Diana:]
"I wanted to understand
how he is fascinating his audience. LFBD

"I looked at him, I studied him
until I understood."


[Auditor:] What about Michael Jackson
has Koos wanted to understand?

[Diana:]
"Koos wanted to understand
what or who diminished Michael's life-energy." LFBD


[Koos:] What have you understood about
how Michael fascinates his audience?

[Diana:]
"He is embracing his whole audience.
He is able to establish a communication to each one of them.
He is radiating his energy into the whole space in which he performs.

"That's one thing.


"When he is singing and dancing,
he is directly putting his energy
onto each and everyone in the audience:

"He is dancing, he is moving his body
and
he is moving their bodies.

"He is singing, he is creating emotions
and
he is creating emotions in each and everyone in his audience.


"He is moving his audience in both senses physically and emotionally.
He is not only moving his body on stage.
He is performing, and he is performing his audience.

"He really 'loves them all', and shows them
that he has an understanding
for their thirst and desire for life.


"And he finds an insatiable [untiring, continuous, enormous] pleasure
in performing on stage."


[Koos:] OK, that's an excellent and interesting description
of what Michael is doing.
Thank you for sharing it with me.

Now, the question
- 'What have you wanted to understand?' -
is intended to find something
that you wanted to understand,
which you then broke off wanting to understand,
for whatever reason.

Finding that [what you broke off],
would revitalize the desire or purpose
to understand more.

So, in this sense:
What have you wanted to understand about Michael Jackson,
which broke off, for whatever reason? LFBD

[Diana:]
"I wanted to understand his religious group affiliation. LFBD

"I am not talking about his religious BELIEF,
I also don't mean just his short episode in Scientology. LFBD

"To express it in musical energy and aliveness:
The religious group affiliation
seemed to me to be of an attenuating nature on [lessening]
Michael's life-energy."


[Koos:] Which religious group are you referring to, here?

[Diana:]
"Jehova's Witnesses." LF


[Koos:] Right. Thank you.

Just for clarification,
is this a group he joined
by himself or because of his parents?

[Diana:]
"I come now to the conclusion
that it must have been because of his parents [that he joined them]."

[Koos:] Thank you.


[Auditor:] What about Michael Jackson
has Koos wanted to understand
which broke off, for whatever reason?

[Diana:]
"Why Michael is not communicating to Koos
in the physical universe." LFBD


[Auditor:] What about Michael Jackson
have you wanted to understand
which broke off, for whatever reason?

[Diana:]
"Whether he separated from his wife - who brought him to Scientology -
or whether she was asked to separate from him?" LFBD


[Koos:] Michael has told me about that,
that, after he was maltreated and invalidated in Scientology,
he broke with Scientology AND with his [Scientology-]wife.

[Diana:] "Thanks."


[Koos:] Let's go to the next question.
The next question is:
What about Koos have you wanted to understand
which broke off, for whatever reason? LF's

[Diana:]
"How come that Koos took interest in me?"


[Koos:] I noticed
that you could need some help and
that I was in a position to give you that help, and
that - as you already expressed it some time ago -
we should hold more together,
in order to prevent enslavement, spiritual enslavement,
which is going on in various ways,
and
because the very able - of which you are one -
must be strong enough
to stand up to such attempts of enslavement.

As you know,
it almost killed Michael Jackson.
(see RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with LRH Scientology' 18 Dec 95
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-413rb.htm)

And
it almost has killed me and almost has destroyed me
- several times this lifetime -
to stand up to such efforts to dominate and enslave.

I want you to be able to stand up to it, and
I want you to help me and help others to stand up to it.

And we seem to be doing fine on this. LFBD


Is this a satisfying answer,
or is there still something unclear about this?

I think you understood this somehow immediately,
at first glance,
when I contacted you the first time,
if I remember this correctly.
(see RI-576i 'The great Diana Ross is on our side' of 23 May 1996
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-576i.htm)

[Diana:]
"Thank you very much.
It is a satisfying answer.

"You are right, I understood this immediately."


[Koos:] As I remember now,
I also noticed a [mental] attack of the being L. Ron Hubbard on you,
which I wanted to handle and did handle. LFBD
(see RI-581i 'L. Ron Hubbard attacks Diana Ross' of 27 May 1996
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-581i.htm)

[Diana:]
"Thank you for your care."


[Koos:] Let's go to the next question. And that is:
What about Michael Jackson
has Koos wanted to understand
which broke off, for whatever reason?

[Diana:]
"I can imagine
that Koos would have wanted to understand
what help Michael Jackson would need."


[Koos:] And what in particular
would Koos have wanted to understand
(which broke off, for whatever reason)?

[Diana:]
"Do you mean what particular HELP Michael Jackson would need?"


[Koos:] Yes, that's how I see it,
unless you see something else, that's also fine.

(silent looking for a while)

I [Koos] get here
his handling or lack of handling
other areas and responsibilities of life
besides that of being a performer. LFBD

In other words,
he seems to be
out of balance, LFBD
closed up,
closing himself up for other areas of life
beyond his being a performer,
like a
lack of responsibility
for friends and family and
for his own education and well-being,
lacking in a more global view of things
of what he could achieve
while being a very successful performer.

Something like that. LFBD

Using his influence, wealth, etc.,
to take more responsibility for life and Mankind
which he could do because he is an excellent performer.

It's interesting to mention that
and maybe a strange thing to say, LFBD
but
I probably have stopped wanting to understand
what he is doing between performances -
which is something easily lost sight of
with all artists,
because of the enormous attention
drawn towards their performance as an artist.

Now it is me who is giving the answer!

[Diana:]
"That's a great collaboration!

"I was willingly listening to you,
inviting you to give the answer." LFBD


[Koos:] It's actually one of my purposes
to help artists to lead a balanced life
with responsibility for all parts of their life
and not only for their performance.

[Diana:]
"Thank you so much for having expressed your goal." LFBD

(Koos is very happy about this)


[Koos:] So, would you like to add anything to that?

[Diana:]
"I want to acknowledge you for having such a goal.
It is a very important one. LFBD

"It meant very much to me
to keep such a balance, and it wasn't always easy." LFBD


[Koos:] Good!

So let's go to the next question:
What about Michael Jackson
have you wanted to understand
which broke off, for whatever reason? LFBD

[Diana:]
"I didn't want to understand much
about his private life and his family life. LFBD

"True, dominant was 'Michael the performer'! LFBD LFBD
I see that now! F/Nind


[Koos:] Very good, thank you very much.

Is there anything you want to say or ask
before we end the session?

[Diana:]
"Thanks for your care!" LFBD

[Koos:] All right!

'Diana Ross'


Total session time: 2 hrs 56 min

Highly specialized Telepathic Interview
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 2,053 US $ cost.



(The abbreviations sF(small Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall),
LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe
reactions on the E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F,
LF, LFBD), and release of charge completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)

(See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' of 1 Aug 96
RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' of 4 Sept 96
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997)


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite


Personal Web-page:
http://ArtOrg.com

Personal Web-Library:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/

Library Search Engine:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html


References (available at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ao-notes.htm"):

AO-P001 'Helping Artists, or Helping Drug-addicts, or both?' of 7 July 1981
AO-P004 'Art Org - Successful Artists' of 26 Aug 1981
AO-P005 'Make your activity viable, don't kill it!' of 30 Aug 1981
AO-P006 'Can't become rich by doing what you want to do' of 30 Aug 1981

AO-P011 'Lowered Quality does not sell better' of 3 May 1982
AO-P017 'Survival Training for Artists and Artlovers' of 1982
AO-P025 'Measuring success of Art-activity by income' of 15 Aug 1989
AO-P029 'Completed work of Art, when it is' of 10 Dec 1990

AO-P030 'Communication in Art' of 15 Dec 1990
AO-P043 'The Quality of a work of Art' of 4 Dec 1993
AO-P048 'Responsibility of the Artist for his public' of 10 June 1994


References (available at the Library "http://Art-Org.com"):

RI-222Ri 'Michael Jackson, Help for him' of 1 July 1995
RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with L. Ron Hubbard Scientology' 18 Dec 95
RI-574i 'Michael Jackson will help to keep LRH away' 23 May 96


RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 96
RI-262i 'Creating despite Suppressive Persons' of 20 Aug 1995

RI-488i 'Very able people at serious risk in Scientology' 23 Feb 1996

RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997

RI-514Ri 'Confessionals and Blackmail - VERY VERY IMPORTANT' of 16 Mar 96
RI-541i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - I' 20 Apr 96
RI-542i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - II' 2 May 96
RI-545i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - III' 20 May 96


RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996

These and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or

at the Library of Koos' writings on
http://Art-Org.com

or (also accessible with WWW-browser) at
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI

suzysuzon a écrit:

15 April 1997


RI-825i 'Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, Koos and care'


from Ambassador for Mankind


Message # RI-825i for Internet



"It's actually one of my purposes
to help artists to lead a balanced life
with responsibility for all parts of their life
and not only for their performance."

'Ambassador for Mankind'



(This is part of a series of RI-Bulletins with Diana Ross and Koos
helping each other to care for humanity:
Search for 'Diana Ross'
at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html".)



Telepathic Interview with Diana Ross,
on 14 April 1997, 20:15 GMT
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.


[Auditor:] We continue the session.

[Not all sessions are being published -
only those that clearly have useful data
for a large number of people. (Note by Koos)]


[Auditor:] What about Michael Jackson
have you wanted to understand? LFBD

[Diana:]
"I wanted to understand
how he is fascinating his audience. LFBD

"I looked at him, I studied him
until I understood."


[Auditor:] What about Michael Jackson
has Koos wanted to understand?

[Diana:]
"Koos wanted to understand
what or who diminished Michael's life-energy." LFBD


[Koos:] What have you understood about
how Michael fascinates his audience?

[Diana:]
"He is embracing his whole audience.
He is able to establish a communication to each one of them.
He is radiating his energy into the whole space in which he performs.

"That's one thing.


"When he is singing and dancing,
he is directly putting his energy
onto each and everyone in the audience:

"He is dancing, he is moving his body
and
he is moving their bodies.

"He is singing, he is creating emotions
and
he is creating emotions in each and everyone in his audience.


"He is moving his audience in both senses physically and emotionally.
He is not only moving his body on stage.
He is performing, and he is performing his audience.

"He really 'loves them all', and shows them
that he has an understanding
for their thirst and desire for life.


"And he finds an insatiable [untiring, continuous, enormous] pleasure
in performing on stage."


[Koos:] OK, that's an excellent and interesting description
of what Michael is doing.
Thank you for sharing it with me.

Now, the question
- 'What have you wanted to understand?' -
is intended to find something
that you wanted to understand,
which you then broke off wanting to understand,
for whatever reason.

Finding that [what you broke off],
would revitalize the desire or purpose
to understand more.

So, in this sense:
What have you wanted to understand about Michael Jackson,
which broke off, for whatever reason? LFBD

[Diana:]
"I wanted to understand his religious group affiliation. LFBD

"I am not talking about his religious BELIEF,
I also don't mean just his short episode in Scientology. LFBD

"To express it in musical energy and aliveness:
The religious group affiliation
seemed to me to be of an attenuating nature on [lessening]
Michael's life-energy."


[Koos:] Which religious group are you referring to, here?

[Diana:]
"Jehova's Witnesses." LF


[Koos:] Right. Thank you.

Just for clarification,
is this a group he joined
by himself or because of his parents?

[Diana:]
"I come now to the conclusion
that it must have been because of his parents [that he joined them]."

[Koos:] Thank you.


[Auditor:] What about Michael Jackson
has Koos wanted to understand
which broke off, for whatever reason?

[Diana:]
"Why Michael is not communicating to Koos
in the physical universe." LFBD


[Auditor:] What about Michael Jackson
have you wanted to understand
which broke off, for whatever reason?

[Diana:]
"Whether he separated from his wife - who brought him to Scientology -
or whether she was asked to separate from him?" LFBD


[Koos:] Michael has told me about that,
that, after he was maltreated and invalidated in Scientology,
he broke with Scientology AND with his [Scientology-]wife.

[Diana:] "Thanks."


[Koos:] Let's go to the next question.
The next question is:
What about Koos have you wanted to understand
which broke off, for whatever reason? LF's

[Diana:]
"How come that Koos took interest in me?"


[Koos:] I noticed
that you could need some help and
that I was in a position to give you that help, and
that - as you already expressed it some time ago -
we should hold more together,
in order to prevent enslavement, spiritual enslavement,
which is going on in various ways,
and
because the very able - of which you are one -
must be strong enough
to stand up to such attempts of enslavement.

As you know,
it almost killed Michael Jackson.
(see RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with LRH Scientology' 18 Dec 95
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-413rb.htm)

And
it almost has killed me and almost has destroyed me
- several times this lifetime -
to stand up to such efforts to dominate and enslave.

I want you to be able to stand up to it, and
I want you to help me and help others to stand up to it.

And we seem to be doing fine on this. LFBD


Is this a satisfying answer,
or is there still something unclear about this?

I think you understood this somehow immediately,
at first glance,
when I contacted you the first time,
if I remember this correctly.
(see RI-576i 'The great Diana Ross is on our side' of 23 May 1996
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-576i.htm)

[Diana:]
"Thank you very much.
It is a satisfying answer.

"You are right, I understood this immediately."


[Koos:] As I remember now,
I also noticed a [mental] attack of the being L. Ron Hubbard on you,
which I wanted to handle and did handle. LFBD
(see RI-581i 'L. Ron Hubbard attacks Diana Ross' of 27 May 1996
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-581i.htm)

[Diana:]
"Thank you for your care."


[Koos:] Let's go to the next question. And that is:
What about Michael Jackson
has Koos wanted to understand
which broke off, for whatever reason?

[Diana:]
"I can imagine
that Koos would have wanted to understand
what help Michael Jackson would need."


[Koos:] And what in particular
would Koos have wanted to understand
(which broke off, for whatever reason)?

[Diana:]
"Do you mean what particular HELP Michael Jackson would need?"


[Koos:] Yes, that's how I see it,
unless you see something else, that's also fine.

(silent looking for a while)

I [Koos] get here
his handling or lack of handling
other areas and responsibilities of life
besides that of being a performer. LFBD

In other words,
he seems to be
out of balance, LFBD
closed up,
closing himself up for other areas of life
beyond his being a performer,
like a
lack of responsibility
for friends and family and
for his own education and well-being,
lacking in a more global view of things
of what he could achieve
while being a very successful performer.

Something like that. LFBD

Using his influence, wealth, etc.,
to take more responsibility for life and Mankind
which he could do because he is an excellent performer.

It's interesting to mention that
and maybe a strange thing to say, LFBD
but
I probably have stopped wanting to understand
what he is doing between performances -
which is something easily lost sight of
with all artists,
because of the enormous attention
drawn towards their performance as an artist.

Now it is me who is giving the answer!

[Diana:]
"That's a great collaboration!

"I was willingly listening to you,
inviting you to give the answer." LFBD


[Koos:] It's actually one of my purposes
to help artists to lead a balanced life
with responsibility for all parts of their life
and not only for their performance.

[Diana:]
"Thank you so much for having expressed your goal." LFBD

(Koos is very happy about this)


[Koos:] So, would you like to add anything to that?

[Diana:]
"I want to acknowledge you for having such a goal.
It is a very important one. LFBD

"It meant very much to me
to keep such a balance, and it wasn't always easy." LFBD


[Koos:] Good!

So let's go to the next question:
What about Michael Jackson
have you wanted to understand
which broke off, for whatever reason? LFBD

[Diana:]
"I didn't want to understand much
about his private life and his family life. LFBD

"True, dominant was 'Michael the performer'! LFBD LFBD
I see that now! F/Nind


[Koos:] Very good, thank you very much.

Is there anything you want to say or ask
before we end the session?

[Diana:]
"Thanks for your care!" LFBD

[Koos:] All right!

'Diana Ross'


Total session time: 2 hrs 56 min

Highly specialized Telepathic Interview
at 700 US $ per hour, makes 2,053 US $ cost.



(The abbreviations sF(small Fall), F(Fall), LF(Long Fall),
LFBD(Long Fall Blow Down) and F/N(Floating Needle) describe
reactions on the E-meter, indicating mental charge (sF, F,
LF, LFBD), and release of charge completed (F/N).
"LFBD-F/N" = truth found out. "ind" = indicated to the person.)

(See RI-610i 'Understanding the E-meter, correctly' of 26 June 96
RI-648i 'Simplicity of E-meter use, by UNDERSTANDING it' of 1 Aug 96
RI-687i 'Notes on E-meter use and Solo-Auditing' of 4 Sept 96
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997)


Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind

Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite


Personal Web-page:
http://ArtOrg.com

Personal Web-Library:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/

Library Search Engine:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html


References (available at "http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ao-notes.htm"):

AO-P001 'Helping Artists, or Helping Drug-addicts, or both?' of 7 July 1981
AO-P004 'Art Org - Successful Artists' of 26 Aug 1981
AO-P005 'Make your activity viable, don't kill it!' of 30 Aug 1981
AO-P006 'Can't become rich by doing what you want to do' of 30 Aug 1981

AO-P011 'Lowered Quality does not sell better' of 3 May 1982
AO-P017 'Survival Training for Artists and Artlovers' of 1982
AO-P025 'Measuring success of Art-activity by income' of 15 Aug 1989
AO-P029 'Completed work of Art, when it is' of 10 Dec 1990

AO-P030 'Communication in Art' of 15 Dec 1990
AO-P043 'The Quality of a work of Art' of 4 Dec 1993
AO-P048 'Responsibility of the Artist for his public' of 10 June 1994


References (available at the Library "http://Art-Org.com"):

RI-222Ri 'Michael Jackson, Help for him' of 1 July 1995
RI-413RBi 'Michael Jackson broke with L. Ron Hubbard Scientology' 18 Dec 95
RI-574i 'Michael Jackson will help to keep LRH away' 23 May 96


RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 96
RI-262i 'Creating despite Suppressive Persons' of 20 Aug 1995

RI-488i 'Very able people at serious risk in Scientology' 23 Feb 1996

RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997

RI-514Ri 'Confessionals and Blackmail - VERY VERY IMPORTANT' of 16 Mar 96
RI-541i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - I' 20 Apr 96
RI-542i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - II' 2 May 96
RI-545i 'Correct and Joyful Confessional Procedure - III' 20 May 96


RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996

These and other RI-Bulletins can well be obtained here - or

at the Library of Koos' writings on
http://Art-Org.com

or (also accessible with WWW-browser) at
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI

je comprends rien du tout tu peux traduire STP

c'est trop zarb ton truc !Je suis entrain de lire ça part ds tous les sens,on dirait qu'ils parlent de conversation télépatique ?
il serait question de Diana Ross,LMP,Michael et d'autres personnes.
Grossomodo il est sujet de Diana Ross qui veut prendre soin de Michael mais qui le sait bien avec LMP.Par contre si j'ai bien compris ils disent que c'est Michael qui a quitté LMP...
ça parle aussi de son malaise en décembre 1995,des accusations de 93.
Mais le pire c'est que je ne sais pas si ça a été posté ici,mais j'ai lu un certains JCC ou Leachim je ne sais plus (Joke Calm China et Leachim sont des anagrams de Michael ) aurait soit disant déchiffré un code qui dirait Michael en retrait sur un bateau,et justement ds ton truc là ça parle de "Flag" qui est je copie/colle :

Citation :

Le terme de « Flag » dans le nom de cette Église vient de ses débuts en 1967 à bord de l’Apollo, vaisseau amiral (flagship) d’une petite flotte de navires utilisés dans les années 60 et 70 pour des retraites religieuses et pour la formation

OOOOOOOOHHH comme je suis contente que tu ais répondu car cela commence à m'inquiéter....

Comme dit dans mes posts précédents j'effectue des recherches sur les relations ambigues entre Michael et Diana

Je pense que cela a conditionné son rapport au femmes
Je tape une page une autre et ainsi de suite, les maris, les enfants, les amants, la carrière....

Et puis tout d'un coup , j'ai une proposition google, je clique et je tombe sur cette page verte datée du 17 avril 1997
sur Diana ...JE jette un oeil:GLOOOUPS

un truc spécial parlant il me semble mais tu rejoins mon avis de télépathie , d'un ambassador mankind, de Koos , de michael , drogues, scientologie...

OULALA en plus toujours sur le thème rapport avec les femmes, j'en ai parlé car c'est aussi une question que je me posais ;mais avec Michael il y en a un certain nombre...


Mais ça c'est vraiment STRANGE Ca me donne l'impression d'avoir piraté un système info d'une société secreète,franchemant inquiétant rencontre du 567 ème type!

En fait j'ai lu la FAQ et ça n'a pas l'air d'être un site sur la scientologie,c'est plutôt un site pour se payer la tête des gens

Citation :

2. What is this web site ?

This site was made for general entertainment, drawing humour from all the crackpots on the web. Alleee and Franc are both fond of oddity as entertainment, and wish to share this with the masses.

Je trouve que c'est complétement dangereux pour les gens qui sont parano, celà devrait être interdit..

Par contre, je ne savais pas qu'il avait eu unproblème sur scène en 95?

Tell me more, tell me more.....(Grease)

Il a fait un malaise sur scène le 6 décembre,il a été à l'hopital,il souffrait de grave déshydratation

je sais pas pour vous, mais ça me semble bizarre que l'on entende pas parler de diana ross, ça fait trois mois qu'MJ est parti, et elle à part avoir donné un discours à faire lire au stapple, on ne l'entend pas , c'est trés trés bizarre

ps: je me souviens plus, elle était à l'enterrement le 04/09/09 ?????

boston 76 a écrit:

ps: je me souviens plus, elle était à l'enterrement le 04/09/09 ?????

bonne question vais aller voir ! me souviens plus

je me demande si cette vieille grue aimait mike comme lui l'aimait, car elle ne dit aucun mot à son sujet à part son discours qu'elle n'a meme pas eu le courage de lire elle meme au stapple

boston 76 a écrit:

ps: je me souviens plus, elle était à l'enterrement le 04/09/09 ?????

ben non ma grande d'après ce que j'ai lu elle y était po !!!la diana ross
elle disait etre sa grande amie ????? bizarre

quelle vieille bique, heureusement que catherine est encore là pour avoir la garde des enfants

Moi ce qui me fait bondir c'est qu'il est parti au mois de juin et qu'au Staples , elle a ecrit une lettre lue par Smokey Robinson disant que c'était trop soudain pour qu'elle assiste à l'hommage (2 mois t'as le temps de t'y préparer!!)

Elle a eu 12 jours ma Suzy pour se préparer au Staples Center, mais même, désolée, mais quand quelqu'un que j'aime s'en va, même 3 jours après, je suis présente, et crois-moi, ce n'est pas facile pour moi de sortir pourtant, et comme tu dis, elle a eu deux mois pour se préparer aux funérailles

Par contre, son fils Evan Ross était au Staples Center, je ne l'ai pas vu mais son nom figurait parmi la liste des invités à la cérémonie.

n'est elle pas allé à Forest Lawn ?

Non Aimjee, elle a fait lire un mot par Robinson:

"Je veux que vous sachiez que bien que je ne sois pas présente ce soir au Staples Center, je suis avec vous par le coeur. J'ai décidé de faire une pause et de me taire. Cela me paraît juste. Michael était mon petit amour, une précieuse partie de mon univers, ma vie, d'une façon que je ne peux exprimer par les mots."